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		<title>Am I an Accessory?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 23:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Pamela</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am stuck in an interesting dilemma. I love my web hosting company, I think the people are great, the tools and support are top notch, and the price is right.  I was, in fact, thinking of upgrading my service with them. But I cannot ignore the fact that on my particular server, they haven&#8217;t [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am stuck in an interesting dilemma.</p>
<p><a href="http://dreamhost.com" target="_blank">I love my web hosting company</a>, I think the people are great, the tools and support are top notch, and the price is right.  I was, in fact, thinking of upgrading my service with them.</p>
<p>But I cannot ignore the fact that on my particular server, they haven&#8217;t updated their openssl libraries in 5 YEARS.   Five.  By my count, they are 20 revisions behind the current library version.</p>
<p>This means that there is a list of exploits as long as my arm that can probably be used against the various sites that I sponsor, including the Pamela Project and OSIS. The big problem is that I&#8217;m using a shared Apache infrastructure, and while I can recompile PHP and Curl to use up-to-date libraries, Apache does a lot of the heavy lifting when it comes to transport-level security, and as far as I know, I cannot affect the modules that load into that shared webserver environment.</p>
<p>Obviously there are actions that I can take to ensure my own security.  I can change web hosters.  I can upgrade to a server where I have access to my own apache configuration.  The standard answer here is that if I don&#8217;t like what I&#8217;ve got I should leave.</p>
<p>But &#8211; what about the folks on my server who don&#8217;t even know they are at risk?  Who are running shopping carts and who just assume that they are on a well-patched, secure server?  By silently walking away from an insecure environment, am I in fact aiding and abetting the web hosting company in their terrible security practices?</p>
<p>I have in the past contacted support about updating SSL libraries when various remote holes were found.  I won&#8217;t quote their answer because I don&#8217;t have the email to back up my recollection, I didn&#8217;t think to save them, but the version number speaks for itself:  0.9.7e.  The current version is 0.9.8k.  I&#8217;m not a big customer, and I know that by paying more I could become more secure &#8212; but must it follow that by paying less I have to be at risk?   I already pay extra per month for SSL support, and also for the unique IP address that is a pre-requisite.  Do I have to get hacked before I have a case?</p>
<p>So I ask you all &#8212; for the small number of us who know better &#8212; what&#8217;s the right way to proceed?  Do I silently act to ensure that I myself am secure, leaving all those other poor uneducated suckers to continue in ignorance and risk?  Do I make a stink?  I doubt I have the clout to cause this very large company to do anything.  Yet, if I don&#8217;t, who will?</p>
<p><strong>Update:</strong> I received a response to my separately sent inquiry to the security team just now (told you they are responsive):</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">We run Debian Linux. Debian does not put new upstream releases, even point releases, into a stable distribution. What happens is that only the security fixes are backported into a package in stable. This minimizes the possibility for the stable release to be de-stabilized by new code introduced upstream.<br />
So while the version of libssl0.9.7-sarge5, it should nevertheless incorporate all the security fixes present in 0.9.8k.</p>
<p>So, the good news is that I&#8217;m probably safe, and the team is on top of it.  The bad new is that I simply have to trust it is so, I don&#8217;t see a way to easily independently verify.</p>
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